The Philadelphia Experiment From A-Z

A Matter Of Time

In the legend of the Philadelphia Experiment the date of the main “deadly” experiment given is Oct. 28, 1943. Below we will look at the various sources and dates given.

“Being employed at the Shipyard during this time, up to 1982, I was in a position to go into some shipyard records and files to find anything relating to the date or to the USS Eldridge DE-173. The listing indicated that the USS Eldridge was not in the shipyard in 1943. My search of the records uncovered another unusual fact. On the supposed date of the experiment, October 23, 1943, at all shops and offices on that day, a Saturday, the back channel employees were assigned work in other locations or given the day off. Most unusual for a wartime shipyard. This fact was verified in conversation with a now retired and deceased member of Liaison Group, Jimmie Judge.” – Sam Kuncevich

“The ‘result’ was complete invisibility of a ship, Destroyer type, and all of its crew, While at Sea (October 1943)” – Carl M. Allen

“The experiment, he {Carl Allen} said, took place in the last few days of October 1943 and the first week of November 1943” – Jacques Vallee [1]

“To the best of Allen’s recollection, the disappearance of the DE-173 occurred between 17:05 and 17:20 hours on, possibly, the 27th or, more likely, the 28th or 29th of October 1943.” – Bob C. Warth [2]

“…it appears that the Philadelphia Experiment took place sometime between July 20th and August 20th, 1943.” – William L. Moore [3]

In 1945 The U.S.S. Antietam (CV-36) went into the Philadelphia Naval Yard for degaussing. The crew, having heard of the PX legend, was starting to get concerned that their ship might be used for a continuation of the experiment. To ease tension, Captain J. R. Tague called all crew to quarters and read a memo from the Secretary of the Navy about the PX. The memo stated that the PX happened on October 28, 1943. This event was entered into the log of the Antietam in May, 1945. [4]

Carl Allen had said that he witnessed the experiment in October of 1943, from the deck of the S.S. Andrew Furuseth.

“..at approximately 5:05 in the afternoon on a nice, clear, sunshiny day. It was a beautiful, lovely day – no clouds in the sky…” – Carl M. Allen. [5]

In the 1983 release of “The Philadelphia Experiment” movie, the date given was October 28th, 1943. In the 1993 sequel however, the date was changed to May 3rd, 1943 was given. I wonder if the movie producers were aware of this discrepancy in the sequel?

So you ask, what’s the real date? I am not sure we will ever know. After compiling the Time Line research my feelings are that, if an experiment was conducted at all, August 13, 1943 would be the earliest “best guess,” with the first week of November being the most probable.

According to “official” records the only two times the S.S. Furuseth and Eldridge could have been within visual distance of each other is on August 17, off New Jersey, or November 2-12, in the Atlantic. [6]

Below is the Eldridge’s Official History, and the Movement Summary of the S.S. Andrew Furuseth.

The famous Berlitz and Moore Book as well countless others on the Philadelphia Experiment state; The Deck logs of the Eldridge for the period from the date of commission (Aug. 27th, 1943) to January 1st, 1944, were “missing.” Mysterious?? However I was able to option The Eldridge’s log books intact, They include the date, location of the ship at 08:00, 12:00, 20:00, and hand written/signed notes every four hours. If you are wondering what is in the logs of the Eldridge for the 28th, here they are and can be described as “Business as Usual”

This section was so much larger before I cut out all the Bielek References, no need to further point out all the glaring holes in his story / craziness.

Some convoys that both the USS Eldridge and Andew Furuseth were in together (Not Complete but clearly shows the ships were in convoys together over time);

ConvoyDepartDateArriveDate
GUS.41Port Said24 May 1944Hampton Roads19 June 1944
GUS.34Port Said15 March 1944Hampton Roads14 April 1944
UGS.48Hampton Roads14 July 1944Port Said8 August 1944

[1]“Revelations: Alien Contact and Human Deceptions” by Jacques Vallee, Pg 205

[2]Letter to the author dated April 22nd, 1994

[3]“The Philadelphia Experiment” by Bill Moore & Charles Berlitz, Pg 170

[4]“The Philadelphia Experiment” by Bill Moore & Charles Berlitz, Pg 251-252

[5]1978 Interview between Carl Allen and Gray Barker

[6]“Mysteries of Mind, Space & Time – The Unexplained”, Pg. 2216

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